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		<title>By: Steven Vore</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-793752</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Vore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 17:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? http://ff.im/-CMegc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? <a href="http://ff.im/-CMegc" rel="nofollow">http://ff.im/-CMegc</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Latimer</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-621691</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Latimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The current #sprint has fallen victim to inside out planning http://bit.ly/1ejwKo now scrambling to fix expectations&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The current #sprint has fallen victim to inside out planning <a href="http://bit.ly/1ejwKo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1ejwKo</a> now scrambling to fix expectations</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-591689</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 01:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Fred,

Nope - Executive Brief has permission to republish that article.  I appreciate you catching it (just in case)!  Thanks, and welcome to Tyner Blain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Fred,</p>
<p>Nope &#8211; Executive Brief has permission to republish that article.  I appreciate you catching it (just in case)!  Thanks, and welcome to Tyner Blain!</p>
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		<title>By: fred nurke</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-591404</link>
		<dc:creator>fred nurke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 00:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol someone is plagiarising

http://www.executivebrief.com/agile/prioritization-agile-teams/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol someone is plagiarising</p>
<p><a href="http://www.executivebrief.com/agile/prioritization-agile-teams/" rel="nofollow">http://www.executivebrief.com/agile/prioritization-agile-teams/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kanban Implementation</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-554366</link>
		<dc:creator>Kanban Implementation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 07:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] simplify things a bit we dropped using user stories. We decided using inside-out approach which in Tyner Blain article on agile prioritization is described as wrong one. The reason was most of the time splitting tasks in a way which was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] simplify things a bit we dropped using user stories. We decided using inside-out approach which in Tyner Blain article on agile prioritization is described as wrong one. The reason was most of the time splitting tasks in a way which was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Kanban Story: Implementation of Kanban</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-544286</link>
		<dc:creator>The Kanban Story: Implementation of Kanban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] simplify things a bit we dropped using user stories. We decided using inside-out approach which in Tyner Blain article on agile prioritization is described as wrong one. The reason was most of the time splitting tasks in a way which was [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] simplify things a bit we dropped using user stories. We decided using inside-out approach which in Tyner Blain article on agile prioritization is described as wrong one. The reason was most of the time splitting tasks in a way which was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marquinhosarm</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575509</link>
		<dc:creator>marquinhosarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? http://tinyurl.com/yftq64j&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yftq64j" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yftq64j</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Product Mgr</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575510</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky Product Mgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 19:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Cranky PM likes this article by @sehlhorst: Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? http://bit.ly/1ejwKo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Cranky PM likes this article by @sehlhorst: Agile Prioritization: Which Widget? <a href="http://bit.ly/1ejwKo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1ejwKo</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Hugopw</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575511</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugopw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/1ejwKo To get value focus on stories ie. one full e2e customer path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://bit.ly/1ejwKo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1ejwKo</a> To get value focus on stories ie. one full e2e customer path.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-10-21 &#8226; Bare Identity</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-531459</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-21 &#8226; Bare Identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Agile Prioritization &#8211; Outside In vs. Inside Out &#124; Tyner Blain &quot;The key ideas at play here: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Agile Prioritization &#8211; Outside In vs. Inside Out | Tyner Blain &quot;The key ideas at play here: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-531413</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kevin (&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/kevind&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@kevind&lt;/a&gt; on Twitter)!

Great point about continual reinforcement of outside-in versus inside-out.  Agree about the tendency to slip.  Especially when the internal team has a greater mind-share from the product owner (or product manager) than the external influencers.  Easy to get mis-reoriented (or mis-reorientated depending on the flavor of English you speak).

Good data point re: UX.  Another thing that it is difficult to remember - the first design does not have to be the final design.  Getting a visualization that enables the story is the first goal.  Improving that visualization is something to be prioritized for follow-up.  This opens Pandora&#039;s box of &quot;big up-front design&quot; discussions - which I wrote about in Nov 2008, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tynerblain.com/blog/2008/11/12/satisficing-sprints/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Satisficing Sprints&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, in the context of providing something that is &quot;good enough.&quot;

In the first sprint, we propose an interaction design that &lt;i&gt;may be&lt;/i&gt; good enough.  We quickly get feedback from customers and / or stakeholders.  Based on that feedback, we decide if it was good enough.  If it wasn&#039;t we decide if closing &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; gap is more important than the other items on the backlog.  If it is, we iterate on the design for that.  If it is less important, we tackle another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kevin (<a href="http://twitter.com/kevind" rel="nofollow">@kevind</a> on Twitter)!</p>
<p>Great point about continual reinforcement of outside-in versus inside-out.  Agree about the tendency to slip.  Especially when the internal team has a greater mind-share from the product owner (or product manager) than the external influencers.  Easy to get mis-reoriented (or mis-reorientated depending on the flavor of English you speak).</p>
<p>Good data point re: UX.  Another thing that it is difficult to remember &#8211; the first design does not have to be the final design.  Getting a visualization that enables the story is the first goal.  Improving that visualization is something to be prioritized for follow-up.  This opens Pandora&#8217;s box of &#8220;big up-front design&#8221; discussions &#8211; which I wrote about in Nov 2008, <i><a href="http://tynerblain.com/blog/2008/11/12/satisficing-sprints/" rel="nofollow">Satisficing Sprints</a></i>, in the context of providing something that is &#8220;good enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the first sprint, we propose an interaction design that <i>may be</i> good enough.  We quickly get feedback from customers and / or stakeholders.  Based on that feedback, we decide if it was good enough.  If it wasn&#8217;t we decide if closing <i>that</i> gap is more important than the other items on the backlog.  If it is, we iterate on the design for that.  If it is less important, we tackle another story.</p>
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		<title>By: johnpeltier</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575512</link>
		<dc:creator>johnpeltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Should #prodmgmt or dev team interact with #UX? http://bit.ly/1ejwKo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Should #prodmgmt or dev team interact with #UX? <a href="http://bit.ly/1ejwKo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1ejwKo</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Thoughts on the How &#171; John Peltier on Products</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-531311</link>
		<dc:creator>Thoughts on the How &#171; John Peltier on Products</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thoughts on the&#160;How  Before I begin, I&#8217;ll issue a warning: What you are about to read is not advisable, though it is a first-hand account.  (Also, I wish to credit Scott Sehlhorst for inspiring my commentary by his comment about this topic in this post about agile prioritization.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Thoughts on the&nbsp;How  Before I begin, I&#8217;ll issue a warning: What you are about to read is not advisable, though it is a first-hand account.  (Also, I wish to credit Scott Sehlhorst for inspiring my commentary by his comment about this topic in this post about agile prioritization.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575513</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New Tyner Blain article: http://bit.ly/401Wu2 #Agile prioritization - anecdote/case-study on #prodmgmt and #ux collaboration with dev&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New Tyner Blain article: <a href="http://bit.ly/401Wu2" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/401Wu2</a> #Agile prioritization &#8211; anecdote/case-study on #prodmgmt and #ux collaboration with dev</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Donaldson</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-531218</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Donaldson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post on a simple concept that is often overlooked.  Couple additional thoughts:

One item which I believe is conveyed in you post via the inside out/outside in comment is the basic tenant of writing a story from the users perspective.  (As a  I want to accomplish ).  We find that this continually has to be re-enforced/reminded.  It seems to be a natural tendency to slide from outside in perspective to inside out, and then you lose customer focus.

On UX: In our shop we are very lucky to have a great interactive design team.  However in our structure they are outside of the product/development teams so we interact as needed with them similar to an internal consultancy.  They helped us create some design standards that we can re-use and engage as new concepts come up that don&#039;t seem to fit the guidelines.  However more often - we do simple wireframes (with visio, powerpoint or balsamiq) as needed based on the nature of the user story.  Even if they are not optimally designed for the user experience, often they help visually convey complex topics to a development team more quickly than text or words.  They also help frame up the problem, so that we can create a more sucinct (smaller) set of Acceptance tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post on a simple concept that is often overlooked.  Couple additional thoughts:</p>
<p>One item which I believe is conveyed in you post via the inside out/outside in comment is the basic tenant of writing a story from the users perspective.  (As a  I want to accomplish ).  We find that this continually has to be re-enforced/reminded.  It seems to be a natural tendency to slide from outside in perspective to inside out, and then you lose customer focus.</p>
<p>On UX: In our shop we are very lucky to have a great interactive design team.  However in our structure they are outside of the product/development teams so we interact as needed with them similar to an internal consultancy.  They helped us create some design standards that we can re-use and engage as new concepts come up that don&#8217;t seem to fit the guidelines.  However more often &#8211; we do simple wireframes (with visio, powerpoint or balsamiq) as needed based on the nature of the user story.  Even if they are not optimally designed for the user experience, often they help visually convey complex topics to a development team more quickly than text or words.  They also help frame up the problem, so that we can create a more sucinct (smaller) set of Acceptance tests.</p>
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		<title>By: bishoph</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/10/19/agile-prioritization/comment-page-1/#comment-575514</link>
		<dc:creator>bishoph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Agile Prioritization. Agile should optimize the rate to deliver value by taking benefit and cost into account. Agreed. http://bit.ly/1ejwKo&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Agile Prioritization. Agile should optimize the rate to deliver value by taking benefit and cost into account. Agreed. <a href="http://bit.ly/1ejwKo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1ejwKo</a></span></span></span></p>
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