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	<title>Comments on: Agile Maturity Model &#8211; What&#8217;s Next?</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-860444</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Elena!

My response got too long, and realized it would work better as an article - let me know what you think.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tynerblain.com/blog/2012/02/01/specializing-generalist/&quot; title=&quot;specializing generalist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Specializing Generalist&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Elena!</p>
<p>My response got too long, and realized it would work better as an article &#8211; let me know what you think.</p>
<p><a href="http://tynerblain.com/blog/2012/02/01/specializing-generalist/" title="specializing generalist" rel="nofollow">Specializing Generalist</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elena Yatzeck</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-860144</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena Yatzeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like this.  I especially like that you talk about how once people give lip service to &quot;people over process,&quot; they spend a lot of time tracking process.

In terms of refinement, I&#039;m thinking a lot these days about &quot;staffing the engineering team correctly.&quot;  I&#039;m not sure I agree in practice that you can or should try to staff all teams with &quot;specializing generalists,&quot; or at least not as taken to an extreme.  (If you&#039;ll forgive the self-promotion, I talked more about this here:  http://pagilista.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-blender-zone-cross-functional-doesnt.html.)

I&#039;ve seen other articles &quot;solve&quot; the problem of people over process by saying you need &quot;collocation&quot; or &quot;enthusiasm.&quot;  I wonder if it&#039;s possible to be more scientific around the cultural steps and changes needed to get a whole organization to be staffing teams with the right people, without all of those people being newly hired.

Let me know what you think.  Thanks for this post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like this.  I especially like that you talk about how once people give lip service to &#8220;people over process,&#8221; they spend a lot of time tracking process.</p>
<p>In terms of refinement, I&#8217;m thinking a lot these days about &#8220;staffing the engineering team correctly.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not sure I agree in practice that you can or should try to staff all teams with &#8220;specializing generalists,&#8221; or at least not as taken to an extreme.  (If you&#8217;ll forgive the self-promotion, I talked more about this here:  <a href="http://pagilista.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-blender-zone-cross-functional-doesnt.html" rel="nofollow">http://pagilista.blogspot.com/2012/01/no-blender-zone-cross-functional-doesnt.html</a>.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen other articles &#8220;solve&#8221; the problem of people over process by saying you need &#8220;collocation&#8221; or &#8220;enthusiasm.&#8221;  I wonder if it&#8217;s possible to be more scientific around the cultural steps and changes needed to get a whole organization to be staffing teams with the right people, without all of those people being newly hired.</p>
<p>Let me know what you think.  Thanks for this post!</p>
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		<title>By: Agile Maturity Model – 3 Different Approaches &#171; Technology Trend Analysis</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-842243</link>
		<dc:creator>Agile Maturity Model – 3 Different Approaches &#171; Technology Trend Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Scott Sehlhorst suggests a similar approach but identifies different dimensions for agile maturity &#8211; Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Scott Sehlhorst suggests a similar approach but identifies different dimensions for agile maturity &#8211; Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Juha Riissanen</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-579481</link>
		<dc:creator>Juha Riissanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;&quot;agile hierarchy of needs&quot;, steps to become an agile organisation by @sehlhorst in the end of http://bit.ly/bBdMmP&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">&quot;agile hierarchy of needs&quot;, steps to become an agile organisation by @sehlhorst in the end of <a href="http://bit.ly/bBdMmP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bBdMmP</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Masson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Masson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Scott and please feel free to rip it up. I would really appreciate the feedback (anyone!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Scott and please feel free to rip it up. I would really appreciate the feedback (anyone!)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-534741</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Patrick, and welcome to Tyner Blain.  I&#039;ll have to noodle on that diagram some.  Not sure I&#039;m immediately bought in to some of the &quot;causal&quot; relationships you identified - but let me think before I form a &quot;more baked&quot; opinion.  

Folks - check out Patrick&#039;s diagram, and engage in the conversation on his site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Patrick, and welcome to Tyner Blain.  I&#8217;ll have to noodle on that diagram some.  Not sure I&#8217;m immediately bought in to some of the &#8220;causal&#8221; relationships you identified &#8211; but let me think before I form a &#8220;more baked&#8221; opinion.  </p>
<p>Folks &#8211; check out Patrick&#8217;s diagram, and engage in the conversation on his site!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Masson</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-534211</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Masson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

I am working on my Masters and looking at organizational decision-making through Agile principles. One of my interests is to try and identity the qualities of an Agile organization, and then map those through adoption: causality, if you will.

The result looks a lot like a maturity model in the sense that an organization could use it to assess their level of adoption (authenticity and maturity). This is a work in progress, I would be interested your though thoughts. The model can be found at: http://openmasters.wordpress.com/agile-causality/

Thank you,
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I am working on my Masters and looking at organizational decision-making through Agile principles. One of my interests is to try and identity the qualities of an Agile organization, and then map those through adoption: causality, if you will.</p>
<p>The result looks a lot like a maturity model in the sense that an organization could use it to assess their level of adoption (authenticity and maturity). This is a work in progress, I would be interested your though thoughts. The model can be found at: <a href="http://openmasters.wordpress.com/agile-causality/" rel="nofollow">http://openmasters.wordpress.com/agile-causality/</a></p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Patrick</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575201</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;R @YoavShapira strategy session exposes the &#039;what _exactly_ are you trying to complete?&#039; issue too http://bit.ly/iXjFe #prodmgmt #agile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">R @YoavShapira strategy session exposes the &#8216;what _exactly_ are you trying to complete?&#8217; issue too <a href="http://bit.ly/iXjFe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/iXjFe</a> #prodmgmt #agile</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575202</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @asplake: nearly scared off @sehlhorst&#039;s &quot;Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?&quot; by the title, but it&#039;s good! http://bit.ly/iXjFe #agile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @asplake: nearly scared off @sehlhorst&#8217;s &#8220;Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?&#8221; by the title, but it&#8217;s good! <a href="http://bit.ly/iXjFe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/iXjFe</a> #agile</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Burrows</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575203</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Burrows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;nearly scared off @sehlhorst&#039;s &quot;Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?&quot; by the title, but it&#039;s good! http://bit.ly/iXjFe #agile&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">nearly scared off @sehlhorst&#8217;s &#8220;Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?&#8221; by the title, but it&#8217;s good! <a href="http://bit.ly/iXjFe" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/iXjFe</a> #agile</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-503863</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point, Roger.  If you do an iteration (a tree falls in the forest), and no one&#039;s around to give you feedback (hear it), does it make you any better (any sound)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point, Roger.  If you do an iteration (a tree falls in the forest), and no one&#8217;s around to give you feedback (hear it), does it make you any better (any sound)?</p>
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		<title>By: Val Workman</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575204</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Workman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@rcauvin liked your comment at http://tr.im/r77C #agile #prodmgmt but not sure conclusion follows. Care to discuss?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@rcauvin liked your comment at <a href="http://tr.im/r77C" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/r77C</a> #agile #prodmgmt but not sure conclusion follows. Care to discuss?</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Roger L. Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575205</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger L. Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Commented on new Tyner Blain post at http://tr.im/r77C. #agile #prodmgmt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Commented on new Tyner Blain post at <a href="http://tr.im/r77C" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/r77C</a>. #agile #prodmgmt</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Roger L. Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-503772</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger L. Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s one basic thing I recommend agile teams do, it&#039;s time-boxed iterations with demos.  I call it &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tr.im/r76d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;demonstration-based agile (DBA)&lt;/a&gt;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s one basic thing I recommend agile teams do, it&#8217;s time-boxed iterations with demos.  I call it &#8220;<a href="http://tr.im/r76d" rel="nofollow">demonstration-based agile (DBA)</a>&#8220;.</p>
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		<title>By: unto the breach</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-503680</link>
		<dc:creator>unto the breach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Getting a New Team to do Cool Stuff...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bootstrapping a New Engineering, Product and Design TeamWhen I took on my current job I was given an established product team and a mostly-new engineering team. We also had a brand new engineering man......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Getting a New Team to do Cool Stuff&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bootstrapping a New Engineering, Product and Design TeamWhen I took on my current job I was given an established product team and a mostly-new engineering team. We also had a brand new engineering man&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ZenBeatz</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575206</link>
		<dc:creator>ZenBeatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;very cool #agile #maturity-model http://bit.ly/efyz5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">very cool #agile #maturity-model <a href="http://bit.ly/efyz5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/efyz5</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: David Alfaro</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575207</link>
		<dc:creator>David Alfaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Amazing Article: #Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?  http://tinyurl.com/npuhon (via @Agilebuddy)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Amazing Article: #Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next?  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/npuhon" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/npuhon</a> (via @Agilebuddy)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo_Veliz</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575208</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo_Veliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;jajaja hace rato era Madurez Agil RT @Agilebuddy #Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? http://ow.ly/gm4z&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">jajaja hace rato era Madurez Agil RT @Agilebuddy #Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? <a href="http://ow.ly/gm4z" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/gm4z</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Agilebuddy</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/06/30/agile-maturity-model/comment-page-1/#comment-575209</link>
		<dc:creator>Agilebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;#Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? http://ow.ly/gm4z&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">#Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? <a href="http://ow.ly/gm4z" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/gm4z</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: links for 2009-07-01 &#8226; Bare Identity</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-07-01 &#8226; Bare Identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Agile Maturity Model – What’s Next? &#124; Tyner Blain &quot;You have to solve the biggest/closest/roadblockiest issue first. Then move on to the next issue. That’s how you should use a maturity model – as guidance about “what’s next?”&quot; (tags: tynerblain scottsehlhorst requirements cmm maturitymodel) [...]</description>
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