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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-490946</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David: You should tell the NYC taxi and limousine commission about your ideas http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/home/home.shtml  they just put out an RFI for suggestions: http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/public_notice_rfi_tpep_2.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David: You should tell the NYC taxi and limousine commission about your ideas <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/home/home.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/home/home.shtml</a>  they just put out an RFI for suggestions: <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/public_notice_rfi_tpep_2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/downloads/pdf/public_notice_rfi_tpep_2.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-490698</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article that puts a great visual to different types of innovation: http://metacool.typepad.com/metacool/2009/04/7-develop-a-taste-for-the-many-flavors-of-innovation.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article that puts a great visual to different types of innovation: <a href="http://metacool.typepad.com/metacool/2009/04/7-develop-a-taste-for-the-many-flavors-of-innovation.html" rel="nofollow">http://metacool.typepad.com/metacool/2009/04/7-develop-a-taste-for-the-many-flavors-of-innovation.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-490011</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A taxi company is pretty red ocean, commodity, so what would I do? I&#039;d build a website where riders could schedule their ride, and track their cab until it arrives. That would reduce my inbound call handling and provide better service. It would also result in an API that I could let everyone use free for non-commercial use, so layers upon layers of logistical, GPS-based iPhone-based apps would happen. 

As for co-branding, cabs are advertising platforms, recommendation engines when the drivers take &quot;DriveOla&quot; from clubs for deliving patrons, and they participate in a vast value chain relative to various experiential products. Can a cab interface better with airlines? Can a cab enhance a travel experience with its hotel, lodging, and entertainment partners? Sure. All of it co-branding. 

There is always a value-chain. There are always co-branding opportunities. 

And, if you are not fostering an ecology, a value-cahin, user generated content, viral product, viral messaging, .... Oh, well. 

&quot;It&#039;s a rainy night in the city that sleeps, and here I am groggy from my nap in the cab from the airport and that painful red eye. Fred, you gotta card? Is your website on it?....Good. &quot;MyCabbie.com,&quot; I&#039;ll leave you a recommendation. Keep the change.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A taxi company is pretty red ocean, commodity, so what would I do? I&#8217;d build a website where riders could schedule their ride, and track their cab until it arrives. That would reduce my inbound call handling and provide better service. It would also result in an API that I could let everyone use free for non-commercial use, so layers upon layers of logistical, GPS-based iPhone-based apps would happen. </p>
<p>As for co-branding, cabs are advertising platforms, recommendation engines when the drivers take &#8220;DriveOla&#8221; from clubs for deliving patrons, and they participate in a vast value chain relative to various experiential products. Can a cab interface better with airlines? Can a cab enhance a travel experience with its hotel, lodging, and entertainment partners? Sure. All of it co-branding. </p>
<p>There is always a value-chain. There are always co-branding opportunities. </p>
<p>And, if you are not fostering an ecology, a value-cahin, user generated content, viral product, viral messaging, &#8230;. Oh, well. </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a rainy night in the city that sleeps, and here I am groggy from my nap in the cab from the airport and that painful red eye. Fred, you gotta card? Is your website on it?&#8230;.Good. &#8220;MyCabbie.com,&#8221; I&#8217;ll leave you a recommendation. Keep the change.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-489968</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David - thanks for the clarifications!  One point you make - focus on your company&#039;s distinctive competence - is definitely key to being successful (better offering, more profitability, etc).  On co-marketing programs, I think it depends on your industry.  That definitely makes sense when your product is a &quot;best of breed&quot; component in a &#039;value chain&#039;, but isn&#039;t a requirement when you are solving a specific problem without defining a value chain.  A taxi company, for example, provides a pretty discrete product to solve a distinct problem.  There aren&#039;t obvious benefits of developing a co-branding program there (at least, not obvious to me at first glance).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; thanks for the clarifications!  One point you make &#8211; focus on your company&#8217;s distinctive competence &#8211; is definitely key to being successful (better offering, more profitability, etc).  On co-marketing programs, I think it depends on your industry.  That definitely makes sense when your product is a &#8220;best of breed&#8221; component in a &#8216;value chain&#8217;, but isn&#8217;t a requirement when you are solving a specific problem without defining a value chain.  A taxi company, for example, provides a pretty discrete product to solve a distinct problem.  There aren&#8217;t obvious benefits of developing a co-branding program there (at least, not obvious to me at first glance).</p>
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		<title>By: Alexei White</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575584</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexei White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;The ultimate product manager HOW-TO. More gems from TynerBlain  http://bit.ly/WwZQ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">The ultimate product manager HOW-TO. More gems from TynerBlain  <a href="http://bit.ly/WwZQ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/WwZQ</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-488021</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On your value chain, at the very beginning of your defining your differentiation and your capability focus, you don&#039;t do everything. You rely on whole product partners. You use an operating system and the development environment, APIs, and frameworks provided by your operating system vendor. 

As your product evolves, you foster complementors in terms of technology extensions, product extensions, content provision. By foster, you might sponsor a marketing component and pay for. This to encourage third-parties. Similarly technical evangelism. Beyond that you reach an ever increasing range of technology providers, such as say MS SQL, Oracle, .... You don&#039;t do everything. All of these people constitute your value chain. 

Once you become a SaaS operation, you can use n-tiering to work with other SaaS vendors to provide ALL the functionality your customers might need. Online banks typically use Check-Free to provide a customer-driven check ordering capability. You don&#039;t write that stuff yourself. You leverage others. 

In a value chain, you want to occupy the top slot and make the most money off of the transactions, but you definately split the experience across the vendors in your value chain. If they don&#039;t succeed, neither do you. 

A more realistic approach is to occupy the position that is focused on the capabilities of your company. This even if you don&#039;t take the most money. The point here is that it costs you less in terms of investment in your business. 

Addressability as mentioned in my prior point is to code using a vendor that provides a co-marketing program, so it costs you less to reach an established market. So if you use MS Access, you would use Microsoft&#039;s 3rd party developer marketing program to reach the MS Access install base. 

You might, later, support Oracle and use a similar program provided by Oracle. Market leading vendors usually have co-marketing programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On your value chain, at the very beginning of your defining your differentiation and your capability focus, you don&#8217;t do everything. You rely on whole product partners. You use an operating system and the development environment, APIs, and frameworks provided by your operating system vendor. </p>
<p>As your product evolves, you foster complementors in terms of technology extensions, product extensions, content provision. By foster, you might sponsor a marketing component and pay for. This to encourage third-parties. Similarly technical evangelism. Beyond that you reach an ever increasing range of technology providers, such as say MS SQL, Oracle, &#8230;. You don&#8217;t do everything. All of these people constitute your value chain. </p>
<p>Once you become a SaaS operation, you can use n-tiering to work with other SaaS vendors to provide ALL the functionality your customers might need. Online banks typically use Check-Free to provide a customer-driven check ordering capability. You don&#8217;t write that stuff yourself. You leverage others. </p>
<p>In a value chain, you want to occupy the top slot and make the most money off of the transactions, but you definately split the experience across the vendors in your value chain. If they don&#8217;t succeed, neither do you. </p>
<p>A more realistic approach is to occupy the position that is focused on the capabilities of your company. This even if you don&#8217;t take the most money. The point here is that it costs you less in terms of investment in your business. </p>
<p>Addressability as mentioned in my prior point is to code using a vendor that provides a co-marketing program, so it costs you less to reach an established market. So if you use MS Access, you would use Microsoft&#8217;s 3rd party developer marketing program to reach the MS Access install base. </p>
<p>You might, later, support Oracle and use a similar program provided by Oracle. Market leading vendors usually have co-marketing programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-488012</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, David.  That&#039;s why it is important to understand the needs not just of your customers, but of your prospects - to understand the potential value of sublimating MS Access in your example - how much impact does that have on your addressable and target markets?

When you say &quot;addressed by your value chain&quot; - what do you mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, David.  That&#8217;s why it is important to understand the needs not just of your customers, but of your prospects &#8211; to understand the potential value of sublimating MS Access in your example &#8211; how much impact does that have on your addressable and target markets?</p>
<p>When you say &#8220;addressed by your value chain&#8221; &#8211; what do you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: vojko</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575585</link>
		<dc:creator>vojko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Product Growth Strategy &#124; Tyner Blain http://bit.ly/jRFAD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Product Growth Strategy | Tyner Blain <a href="http://bit.ly/jRFAD" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/jRFAD</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Prdct Mgmt - JP Fozo</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575586</link>
		<dc:creator>Prdct Mgmt - JP Fozo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Product Growth Strategy from @TynerBlain: 
http://adjix.com/wst8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Product Growth Strategy from @TynerBlain:<br />
<a href="http://adjix.com/wst8" rel="nofollow">http://adjix.com/wst8</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dempsey</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575587</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;A great article on product growth strategy: http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">A great article on product growth strategy: <a href="http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/" rel="nofollow">http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Yama</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575588</link>
		<dc:creator>Yama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Tyner Blain post - Product Growth Strategy @sehlhorst http://bit.ly/hoZu #prodmgmt - there&#039;s market share, then there&#039;s paaaid market share&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Tyner Blain post &#8211; Product Growth Strategy @sehlhorst <a href="http://bit.ly/hoZu" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hoZu</a> #prodmgmt &#8211; there&#8217;s market share, then there&#8217;s paaaid market share</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Eric D. Brown</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575589</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric D. Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Shared Link: Product Growth Strategy http://bit.ly/11IXso&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Shared Link: Product Growth Strategy <a href="http://bit.ly/11IXso" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/11IXso</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-575590</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;new Tyner Blain article: Product Growth Strategy: http://tinyurl.com/d48a7n #prodmgmt #freemium #busanalyst&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">new Tyner Blain article: Product Growth Strategy: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/d48a7n" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d48a7n</a> #prodmgmt #freemium #busanalyst</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: David Locke</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/04/01/product-growth-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-487188</link>
		<dc:creator>David Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliminating barriers to market addressibility will enlarge your market. Customers won&#039;t ask for this. 

If you built your product on top of MS Access, you can address that market easily enough, but that installation requirement becomes a barrier. Eventually, you will need to sublimate MS Access. Your Access customers won&#039;t ask for this. They may still appreciate it, because your refactored application should make MS Access or any other database easier to deal with for its users. 

Global markets also present addressibility opportunities. Globalization, internationalization, and localization need to be addressed by your value chain. Localization in particular can be left to the distributor in the local market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliminating barriers to market addressibility will enlarge your market. Customers won&#8217;t ask for this. </p>
<p>If you built your product on top of MS Access, you can address that market easily enough, but that installation requirement becomes a barrier. Eventually, you will need to sublimate MS Access. Your Access customers won&#8217;t ask for this. They may still appreciate it, because your refactored application should make MS Access or any other database easier to deal with for its users. </p>
<p>Global markets also present addressibility opportunities. Globalization, internationalization, and localization need to be addressed by your value chain. Localization in particular can be left to the distributor in the local market.</p>
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