Comments on: User Stories and Use Cases http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/ Software product success. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:10:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: How to write good user stories | All Thumbs and No Fingers http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-845843 How to write good user stories | All Thumbs and No Fingers Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:49:54 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-845843 [...] Update ** And finally I found some good info comparing User Stories and Use Cases by Scott Sehlhurst Tweet This PostNo related [...] [...] Update ** And finally I found some good info comparing User Stories and Use Cases by Scott Sehlhurst Tweet This PostNo related [...]

]]> By: Yet another great post about use case and user story | MSDN Blogs http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-834423 Yet another great post about use case and user story | MSDN Blogs Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:59:16 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-834423 [...] Yet another great post about use case and user story Posted by Code Monkey on December 2, 2011 Here we go. [...] [...] Yet another great post about use case and user story Posted by Code Monkey on December 2, 2011 Here we go. [...]

]]> By: Walid Farag http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-690231 Walid Farag Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:17:41 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-690231 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://bit.ly/gsbyHT</span></span> RT @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://bit.ly/gsbyHT

]]> By: dovie shaw http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-654863 dovie shaw Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:07:08 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-654863 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@yangtaice Esexxx Your so mean! lol RT BoobieDreamin Really expressin yourself with that M&M jacket huh fat man.. aha http://wri.bd.to/GAhHG</span></span> @yangtaice Esexxx Your so mean! lol RT BoobieDreamin Really expressin yourself with that M&M jacket huh fat man.. aha http://wri.bd.to/GAhHG

]]> By: Romain Couturier http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-625690 Romain Couturier Thu, 30 Sep 2010 19:24:13 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-625690 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://ow.ly/2Ld6</span></span> RT @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://ow.ly/2Ld6

]]> By: Mohamed Ait-Salah http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-2/#comment-625680 Mohamed Ait-Salah Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:10:13 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-625680 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">User Stories And Uses Cases good article http://bit.ly/dghc99 @calton13</span></span> User Stories And Uses Cases good article http://bit.ly/dghc99 @calton13

]]> By: Scott Sehlhorst http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-625063 Scott Sehlhorst Sun, 26 Sep 2010 13:48:38 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-625063 @DaveB - sure, by all means, use the graphics! I've actually been considering redoing the graphics - not sure I like the style of them. Let me know which ones you're thinking about using and I'll be happy to rework them for you. You can get my email from the about-the-author page :) Scott @DaveB – sure, by all means, use the graphics!

I’ve actually been considering redoing the graphics – not sure I like the style of them. Let me know which ones you’re thinking about using and I’ll be happy to rework them for you.

You can get my email from the about-the-author page :)

Scott

]]> By: DaveB http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-625028 DaveB Sun, 26 Sep 2010 08:18:07 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-625028 Great graphics! Would you mind if I used a couple of them (with acknowledgments) in a class I'm teaching next month on requirements modeling? Great graphics! Would you mind if I used a couple of them (with acknowledgments) in a class I’m teaching next month on requirements modeling?

]]> By: Julian Sammy http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-616096 Julian Sammy Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:07:10 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-616096 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @JeffreyGoodReq: @sehlhorst http://bit.ly/60m02 definately has legs for folks. I spoke last week on topic to record crowd at local IIBA chapter</span></span> RT @JeffreyGoodReq: @sehlhorst http://bit.ly/60m02 definately has legs for folks. I spoke last week on topic to record crowd at local IIBA chapter

]]> By: Jeffrey Davidson http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-616066 Jeffrey Davidson Wed, 18 Aug 2010 23:59:32 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-616066 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@sehlhorst http://bit.ly/60m02 definately has legs for folks. I spoke last week on topic to record crowd at local IIBA chapter</span></span> @sehlhorst http://bit.ly/60m02 definately has legs for folks. I spoke last week on topic to record crowd at local IIBA chapter

]]> By: Adrian Logan http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-616010 Adrian Logan Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:25:52 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-616010 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">TynerBlain: Should I write User Stories or Use Cases?http://is.gd/en6Yx #agile</span></span> TynerBlain: Should I write User Stories or Use Cases?http://is.gd/en6Yx #agile

]]> By: Christophe ORDANO http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-615997 Christophe ORDANO Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:03:28 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-615997 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Should I write User Stories or Use Cases? http://bit.ly/60m02 #agile</span></span> Should I write User Stories or Use Cases? http://bit.ly/60m02 #agile

]]> By: Roger L. Cauvin http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-611200 Roger L. Cauvin Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:13:59 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-611200 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Lots of good points on stories & acceptance criteria in latest @sehlhorst comment. http://bit.ly/duX8TU #prodmgmt #agile #scrum</span></span> Lots of good points on stories & acceptance criteria in latest @sehlhorst comment. http://bit.ly/duX8TU #prodmgmt #agile #scrum

]]> By: Adam http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-611085 Adam Fri, 09 Jul 2010 23:37:05 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-611085 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Reading @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://bit.ly/3n1Scd - really resonated as I start to prepare a team for Phase 2 of a website</span></span> Reading @sehlhorst: User Stories and Use Cases http://bit.ly/3n1Scd – really resonated as I start to prepare a team for Phase 2 of a website

]]> By: Scott Sehlhorst http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-611063 Scott Sehlhorst Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:31:40 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-611063 Thanks, Jack H.! You should definitely add acceptance criteria to your user stories - in order to define what it means for the implementation team to be "done" with a given story. These are analogous to pre/post-conditions for use cases. Maybe there are some good examples of user stories that are so self-contained and self-explanatory that they don't require any acceptance criteria, but I can't think of any right now. In addition to helping the team know "when they are done," the acceptance criteria help provide context about the particular story. While the story calls out "why" the user is performing the activity, the acceptance criteria pass along some insight into "why" the business wants the user to be able to do the story. If you've got any examples you can share, of stories that worked well for your teams without acceptance criteria, maybe you can share a couple of them here? Thanks, Jack H.!

You should definitely add acceptance criteria to your user stories – in order to define what it means for the implementation team to be “done” with a given story. These are analogous to pre/post-conditions for use cases. Maybe there are some good examples of user stories that are so self-contained and self-explanatory that they don’t require any acceptance criteria, but I can’t think of any right now.

In addition to helping the team know “when they are done,” the acceptance criteria help provide context about the particular story. While the story calls out “why” the user is performing the activity, the acceptance criteria pass along some insight into “why” the business wants the user to be able to do the story.

If you’ve got any examples you can share, of stories that worked well for your teams without acceptance criteria, maybe you can share a couple of them here?

]]> By: Tim Perry http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-610909 Tim Perry Thu, 08 Jul 2010 23:11:42 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-610909 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Good stuff! RT @Jim_Holland: "User Stories & Use Cases" What's best for you? Great post from @sehlhorst that provides... http://bit.ly/60m02</span></span> Good stuff! RT @Jim_Holland: "User Stories & Use Cases" What's best for you? Great post from @sehlhorst that provides… http://bit.ly/60m02

]]> By: jidoctor http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-610910 jidoctor Thu, 08 Jul 2010 22:25:44 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-610910 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @Jim_Holland "User Stories & Use Cases" What's best for you? from @sehlhorst provides clarity and guidance. http://bit.ly/60m02 #prodmgmt</span></span> RT @Jim_Holland "User Stories & Use Cases" What's best for you? from @sehlhorst provides clarity and guidance. http://bit.ly/60m02 #prodmgmt

]]> By: Jack H. http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-610904 Jack H. Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:47:34 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-610904 Very interesting and well laid out example of when and where Use Cases can supplement and aide User Stories. Our shop is a great example where we have 5 Scrum Teams and a large backlog covering around 10 internally used applications. Teams get the next priority item based on their availability and therefore need to be familiar (or allot revamp time) on each application. This might be a great example of where a User Story supplemented by Use Cases would work. The alternative is to add to the User Story additional details such as Acceptance Criteria, user flow chart, and so forth. Very interesting and well laid out example of when and where Use Cases can supplement and aide User Stories. Our shop is a great example where we have 5 Scrum Teams and a large backlog covering around 10 internally used applications. Teams get the next priority item based on their availability and therefore need to be familiar (or allot revamp time) on each application. This might be a great example of where a User Story supplemented by Use Cases would work.

The alternative is to add to the User Story additional details such as Acceptance Criteria, user flow chart, and so forth.

]]> By: Michael http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-610867 Michael Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:40:37 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-610867 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @sehlhorst very useful. is complexity of UC needed vs story? see http://bit.ly/bHxzTG #agile #prodmgmt</span></span> RT @sehlhorst very useful. is complexity of UC needed vs story? see http://bit.ly/bHxzTG #agile #prodmgmt

]]> By: Scott Sehlhorst http://tynerblain.com/blog/2009/02/02/user-stories-and-use-cases/comment-page-1/#comment-611550 Scott Sehlhorst Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:06:12 +0000 http://tynerblain.com/blog/?p=809#comment-611550 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">re: UC for SaaS: @Jim_Holland v.useful. is complexity of UC needed vs story? see http://bit.ly/bHxzTG #agile #prodmgmt #baot</span></span> re: UC for SaaS: @Jim_Holland v.useful. is complexity of UC needed vs story? see http://bit.ly/bHxzTG #agile #prodmgmt #baot

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