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	<title>Comments on: APR: Nexus Alpha Release Announcement</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/05/17/apr-nexus-alpha-release/comment-page-1/#comment-98349</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Roger.  Although I only mentioned it briefly, I did get an early pre-alpha to a few people (the site was functional at a different URL before it became nexus, around build 65).  I also was able to get feedback in person from folks who saw a prototype on my laptop.  I didn&#039;t share those early versions more broadly because I felt they might dissuade end users.  The alpha was the first &quot;complete enough&quot; version to share with people indiscriminately.

It is a challenge to balance the perception of &quot;incomplete products&quot; that comes from early releases to the wrong people with the need to get feedback on early releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Roger.  Although I only mentioned it briefly, I did get an early pre-alpha to a few people (the site was functional at a different URL before it became nexus, around build 65).  I also was able to get feedback in person from folks who saw a prototype on my laptop.  I didn&#8217;t share those early versions more broadly because I felt they might dissuade end users.  The alpha was the first &#8220;complete enough&#8221; version to share with people indiscriminately.</p>
<p>It is a challenge to balance the perception of &#8220;incomplete products&#8221; that comes from early releases to the wrong people with the need to get feedback on early releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger L. Cauvin</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/05/17/apr-nexus-alpha-release/comment-page-1/#comment-97990</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger L. Cauvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 23:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I join Rolf in congratulating you on putting together a neat site so quickly.

I would go further than Rolf in questioning the &quot;agileness&quot; of the approach, however.  It seems to have been a waterfall process despite the short amount of time it took to get the basic site up and running.

An example of &quot;true&quot; agile process would have been one that resulted in a first &quot;release&quot; that was completely hardwired - e.g. one or more use cases implemented as a sequence of static web pages.  Such a release would enable you to exercise the requirements and interaction design risks - and obtain feedback about the requirements and usability from users of a &quot;working&quot; system - in a fraction of the time.

I list some approaches to iterating &lt;a href=&quot;http://cauvin.blogspot.com/2005/08/approaches-to-iterating.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I join Rolf in congratulating you on putting together a neat site so quickly.</p>
<p>I would go further than Rolf in questioning the &#8220;agileness&#8221; of the approach, however.  It seems to have been a waterfall process despite the short amount of time it took to get the basic site up and running.</p>
<p>An example of &#8220;true&#8221; agile process would have been one that resulted in a first &#8220;release&#8221; that was completely hardwired &#8211; e.g. one or more use cases implemented as a sequence of static web pages.  Such a release would enable you to exercise the requirements and interaction design risks &#8211; and obtain feedback about the requirements and usability from users of a &#8220;working&#8221; system &#8211; in a fraction of the time.</p>
<p>I list some approaches to iterating <a href="http://cauvin.blogspot.com/2005/08/approaches-to-iterating.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/05/17/apr-nexus-alpha-release/comment-page-1/#comment-97847</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rolf, first - thanks for the help on the project, I&#039;m looking forward to more as we go.  Second - thanks for the spot-on critique of the &quot;bonus features.&quot;

I just typed a really long response, and then decided to make it into today&#039;s article.  Thanks again, and check out the next article for this ongoing discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rolf, first &#8211; thanks for the help on the project, I&#8217;m looking forward to more as we go.  Second &#8211; thanks for the spot-on critique of the &#8220;bonus features.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just typed a really long response, and then decided to make it into today&#8217;s article.  Thanks again, and check out the next article for this ongoing discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/05/17/apr-nexus-alpha-release/comment-page-1/#comment-97795</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: congratulations, Scott. I think you&#039;ve done a lot of high quality work during the last month. I&#039;m happy to be a part of it.

However, allow me to comment on the agile project experiment (no offense intended !).
For me, in an agile project there&#039;s no room for &quot;Bonus Features - 
a couple other things implemented early while we were there&quot;. I&#039;d like to see us come back to the original idea of prioritization (which can mean a change of priorities with the help of the users).

All new ideas or things we stumble upon should undergo the same persona/usecase/priorities analysis as the original ideas did. Otherwise this project leans over to hacking. (However, I respect your dictator role, Scott.) This should be done for the purpose of the experiment reader&#039;s (and my) education and their chance of gaining insight. I know that it is easier to skip these things, but that is not what we are preaching in agile/lean product development classes/articles/books.

On the other hand, can the &quot;change of plan&quot; be interpreted as an experience with agile projects? Can we deduct that it is more important to have a strong product manager than to have a clear process for transforming ideas into products? (or even further, that projects should be created so, that a product manager can implement his own vision ;-)
This would be very interesting knowledge I gain from the experiment.

I&#039;d love to know what YOU are thinking about the project&#039;s process. Why did we deviate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: congratulations, Scott. I think you&#8217;ve done a lot of high quality work during the last month. I&#8217;m happy to be a part of it.</p>
<p>However, allow me to comment on the agile project experiment (no offense intended !).<br />
For me, in an agile project there&#8217;s no room for &#8220;Bonus Features &#8211;<br />
a couple other things implemented early while we were there&#8221;. I&#8217;d like to see us come back to the original idea of prioritization (which can mean a change of priorities with the help of the users).</p>
<p>All new ideas or things we stumble upon should undergo the same persona/usecase/priorities analysis as the original ideas did. Otherwise this project leans over to hacking. (However, I respect your dictator role, Scott.) This should be done for the purpose of the experiment reader&#8217;s (and my) education and their chance of gaining insight. I know that it is easier to skip these things, but that is not what we are preaching in agile/lean product development classes/articles/books.</p>
<p>On the other hand, can the &#8220;change of plan&#8221; be interpreted as an experience with agile projects? Can we deduct that it is more important to have a strong product manager than to have a clear process for transforming ideas into products? (or even further, that projects should be created so, that a product manager can implement his own vision ;-)<br />
This would be very interesting knowledge I gain from the experiment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know what YOU are thinking about the project&#8217;s process. Why did we deviate?</p>
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