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	<title>Comments on: Marketing Truths &#8211; Don&#8217;t Tell the Developers</title>
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		<title>By: Marketing or Product Development? &#124; Skyway Software Blog</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/01/15/marketing-truths-for-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-317943</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing or Product Development? &#124; Skyway Software Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a recent post on the Pragmatic Marketing blog, the Marketing-ProductDelivery coexistence question is partially answered. What&#8217;s the question?  It is: can Marketing and Product Development truly coexist?  The supplemental links from Tyner Blain and John Dodds also provide additional context to this very interesting question.  In my opinion, they must co-exist and they must be inextricably linked in order to be optimally effective&#8211;my deep-dive analysis of Marketing &amp; Product Development will be fodder for a future post.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a recent post on the Pragmatic Marketing blog, the Marketing-ProductDelivery coexistence question is partially answered. What&#8217;s the question?  It is: can Marketing and Product Development truly coexist?  The supplemental links from Tyner Blain and John Dodds also provide additional context to this very interesting question.  In my opinion, they must co-exist and they must be inextricably linked in order to be optimally effective&#8211;my deep-dive analysis of Marketing &amp; Product Development will be fodder for a future post.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ann, and welcome to Tyner Blain!

I completely agree about the direction of information flow - we should be getting more from our customers they get from us.  The marketing material is one of the vehicles for getting info to them.

Oh - definitely high on the geek scale here too, but I get geeky about the what (determining the &#039;what&#039; is sort of a &#039;how&#039; for me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ann, and welcome to Tyner Blain!</p>
<p>I completely agree about the direction of information flow &#8211; we should be getting more from our customers they get from us.  The marketing material is one of the vehicles for getting info to them.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; definitely high on the geek scale here too, but I get geeky about the what (determining the &#8216;what&#8217; is sort of a &#8216;how&#8217; for me).</p>
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		<title>By: ann michael</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/01/15/marketing-truths-for-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-66599</link>
		<dc:creator>ann michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how you described #3.  It&#039;s so true - simple isn&#039;t evil, sometimes it&#039;s the only way to get the door open.  

I must admit that 10 sounds a little one-sided now, though.  &quot;Enlighten&quot; is a word that scares me when we&#039;re talking about our interactions with our customers.  While there is a place for it - there&#039;s also a lot of enlightening moving in the other direction as well!

I love your definition of a geek too!  (I&#039;m guilty of that myself - I&#039;m not a tech geek - I&#039;m a management geek - but all us geeks are cut from the same cloth regardless of our specialty!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how you described #3.  It&#8217;s so true &#8211; simple isn&#8217;t evil, sometimes it&#8217;s the only way to get the door open.  </p>
<p>I must admit that 10 sounds a little one-sided now, though.  &#8220;Enlighten&#8221; is a word that scares me when we&#8217;re talking about our interactions with our customers.  While there is a place for it &#8211; there&#8217;s also a lot of enlightening moving in the other direction as well!</p>
<p>I love your definition of a geek too!  (I&#8217;m guilty of that myself &#8211; I&#8217;m not a tech geek &#8211; I&#8217;m a management geek &#8211; but all us geeks are cut from the same cloth regardless of our specialty!).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2007/01/15/marketing-truths-for-developers/comment-page-1/#comment-66341</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks guys!

And thanks, John, for the original list and the link from your blog.  Everyone should check out his site - there&#039;s some good stuff going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks guys!</p>
<p>And thanks, John, for the original list and the link from your blog.  Everyone should check out his site &#8211; there&#8217;s some good stuff going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the &quot;Dilbert&quot; post for all us marketing folk.  Almost feel like giving it to a few people I know with a &quot;welcome to my world&quot; post it stuck on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the &#8220;Dilbert&#8221; post for all us marketing folk.  Almost feel like giving it to a few people I know with a &#8220;welcome to my world&#8221; post it stuck on.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dodds</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dodds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 11:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback guys - you make some interesting additions and I shall make sure to bring this post to the attention of my reader. 

I went back to look at point 2 because I would totally stress the conversational aspect of marketing, but I see my wording could easily be taken as anti-jargon (which I addressed anyway in point 4). Although the post was entitled Geek Marketing, I believe the lessons apply to all sectors - marketing is marketing wherever it is applied and only snake-oil salesmen would try to convince you otherwise. For further reading, my more recent j train minifesto isa good follow-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback guys &#8211; you make some interesting additions and I shall make sure to bring this post to the attention of my reader. </p>
<p>I went back to look at point 2 because I would totally stress the conversational aspect of marketing, but I see my wording could easily be taken as anti-jargon (which I addressed anyway in point 4). Although the post was entitled Geek Marketing, I believe the lessons apply to all sectors &#8211; marketing is marketing wherever it is applied and only snake-oil salesmen would try to convince you otherwise. For further reading, my more recent j train minifesto isa good follow-up.</p>
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