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	<title>Comments on: Skip The Requirements, Empower The Developers</title>
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		<title>By: The Role of Developers in Requirements Gathering &#124; Rob Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Role of Developers in Requirements Gathering &#124; Rob Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have been a few posts (here and here) regarding the role of developers in requirements gathering. While some might see the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-221828</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stoft, thanks for commenting.  I agree with you - an ethnologist would do better research.  My point wasn&#039;t that the ethnologist would be less effective - just that his suggestion was to remove one set of people, but not the others.  If his arguments were strictly true, they would apply to ethnologists as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stoft, thanks for commenting.  I agree with you &#8211; an ethnologist would do better research.  My point wasn&#8217;t that the ethnologist would be less effective &#8211; just that his suggestion was to remove one set of people, but not the others.  If his arguments were strictly true, they would apply to ethnologists as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Stoft</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-220629</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just theorizing but, an ethnologist or psychologist may be better at discovering implicit requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just theorizing but, an ethnologist or psychologist may be better at discovering implicit requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolf</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-217517</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, BUT... :-)

There also IS the Two Cultures problem. See Wikipedia, for example.
I.e., a significant fraction of developers are not able or do not want to do the work the analysts do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, BUT&#8230; :-)</p>
<p>There also IS the Two Cultures problem. See Wikipedia, for example.<br />
I.e., a significant fraction of developers are not able or do not want to do the work the analysts do.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Sehlhorst</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-57850</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sehlhorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

I think you&#039;re exactly right.  When I&#039;ve interviewed people both for development and requirements/analyst positions one thing I always look for is reaching &quot;beyond their role.&quot;

I&#039;ve become convinced over the last decade of working in the software space (combined with almost a decade as a mechanical engineer) that people who are great at whatever they do develop a significant understanding of what the people around them do.  People who aren&#039;t great at their own work rarely understand the work of their peers.

I believe that developers getting involved in requirements/specification, and understanding customer needs, qualifies in this regard.  

Great insight, and thanks for reading and commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re exactly right.  When I&#8217;ve interviewed people both for development and requirements/analyst positions one thing I always look for is reaching &#8220;beyond their role.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve become convinced over the last decade of working in the software space (combined with almost a decade as a mechanical engineer) that people who are great at whatever they do develop a significant understanding of what the people around them do.  People who aren&#8217;t great at their own work rarely understand the work of their peers.</p>
<p>I believe that developers getting involved in requirements/specification, and understanding customer needs, qualifies in this regard.  </p>
<p>Great insight, and thanks for reading and commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grady &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Role of Developers in Requirements Gathering</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-57845</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Grady &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Role of Developers in Requirements Gathering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There have been a few posts (here and here) regarding the role of developers in requirements gathering. While some might see the removal of requirements as a way to get developers closer to the customer or gain efficiencies in development, that is more likely for a longer post. The best projects and best results have been working with passionate developers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There have been a few posts (here and here) regarding the role of developers in requirements gathering. While some might see the removal of requirements as a way to get developers closer to the customer or gain efficiencies in development, that is more likely for a longer post. The best projects and best results have been working with passionate developers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Grady</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-57821</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, &#039;good&#039; developers do not want to have requirements thrown over the fence but would rather take an active role in not only understanding but contributing in defining the solution. In what is often a challenge is the myopic view on process-driven development. 

Too often optimization, titles and processes (which are all necessary) can reduce a developer to a &#039;cog&#039; in the wheel. While the &#039;plan&#039; sure looks good on paper, it doesn&#039;t account for job satisfaction, growth or passion. While developers can be technology focused, enabling the technology team as a contributor further up in the process provides rewards in passionate developers downstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, &#8216;good&#8217; developers do not want to have requirements thrown over the fence but would rather take an active role in not only understanding but contributing in defining the solution. In what is often a challenge is the myopic view on process-driven development. </p>
<p>Too often optimization, titles and processes (which are all necessary) can reduce a developer to a &#8216;cog&#8217; in the wheel. While the &#8216;plan&#8217; sure looks good on paper, it doesn&#8217;t account for job satisfaction, growth or passion. While developers can be technology focused, enabling the technology team as a contributor further up in the process provides rewards in passionate developers downstream.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bullied</title>
		<link>http://tynerblain.com/blog/2006/11/30/skip-the-requirements/comment-page-1/#comment-57607</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bullied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhh -- that&#039;s an interesting one. Something I&#039;m going to have to blog about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhh &#8212; that&#8217;s an interesting one. Something I&#8217;m going to have to blog about&#8230;</p>
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